Barb McGrath 0:01
Hi, Barb here from Above the Fold, just getting ready to go live with Luke Roscoe and Gareth badan. Both musicians here in our community. We are in the sound room at I don’t know control room, we’re in the summer over at CJ tr. And we have an absolute crowd in here with us today. So you’ll meet a few extra folks along the way. We’ve got amber in the background and few others joining us as well. Hiding behind the camera. We’re gonna try and get to Luke and Gareth with us right away here and we’ll be ready to go live in a couple minutes till the end.
Luke Rossmo 0:37
Do you want me to do Do you want to run it from the side and then I can just sneak back there. I’m just gonna run on the microphones for this. But do you want
Barb McGrath 0:44
Me to restart the computer? That’s what I want. Yeah, that’s what we’re going to do since she gets it. Yeah, but
Gareth Bawden 0:50
If you want to make sure the computer channels down while we get in, I can quickly I’ll make sure it’s like two seconds. Well, more like a minute and then I’ll be fine.
Luke Rossmo 1:06
You have to go back there as well.
Unknown Speaker 1:07
Unknown Speaker 1:09
Manually shut her down.
Barb McGrath 1:16
Okay, you guys don’t have
Unknown Speaker 1:22
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Unknown Speaker 1:28
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Barb McGrath 1:31
At some point pointed that way, here Good. Okay, so they will join us in just a minute, but we’re gonna get everything else teed up here and I’m gonna pay attention when you guys auto off. Okay, so I need to be ready radios.
Gareth Bawden 1:45
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Barb McGrath 1:52
Welcome tonight views The Secret Life of entrepreneurs. A 91.3 FM CJ tr Regina community radio. We’re live with a local business owner who’s making a difference in y qR. Stay tuned to learn their secret about what makes them tick. What helped them become successful in their role as a leader in our business community. You’re listening to your host, Barb McGrath, local business owner, marketing guru and founder of the get found on Google program. Our guests today are Luke Rossmo and Gareth Watson, both musicians and entrepreneurs. Welcome, guys.
Unknown Speaker 2:30
Thank you, Barb. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us.
Barb McGrath 2:33
We’re going to talk a little bit today about each of their backgrounds. They’re both entrepreneurs, but they’re both musicians. So we’re going to talk a little bit about how how they put those pieces together. Now, I believe Luke, you’re gonna sorry, Gareth. You’re gonna start us off with the song. That’s right. Excellent. So tell us a little bit about the song. What’s it called?
Unknown Speaker 2:54
It’s a fairly old song for me. It’s called see me through. But I’m going to be releasing it soon. As of next March, I thought I should play this one that people can maybe look into getting it when it’s been released. I’m working with a gentleman called Kyle, working at littleleaf Studios. I’d like to share that one with you today. It’s about reaching out for help when you need it.
Barb McGrath 3:17
Excellent. Well, we look forward to hearing hearing it. We’re ready when you are okay.
Unknown Speaker 7:06
Turning to you.
Barb McGrath 7:44
Wow, thank you, Garrett. That was amazing. That was absolutely amazing. You know, as somebody who took guitar lessons for only a few years, and I probably struggled to put much of a chord together anymore, I can appreciate like the musical talent that goes into writing your own song and producing it. So that was fantastic. Thank you. We certainly look forward to yours at the end. Me too. Awesome. All right. So you’re both musicians, and also have kind of a business side as well. So I don’t know who wants to go first, Luke, maybe it’s your turn. But besides music, what else do you do? And how do you make it all work with all those moving pieces?
Unknown Speaker 8:28
Oh, there’s a few questions there, I suppose.
Barb McGrath 8:30
You know, we only have 28 minutes.
Unknown Speaker 8:33
Two hours later. Yeah.
Gareth Bawden 8:36
So I’m a I’m a coach is probably the easiest way to think about it as as a personal trainer. So a ton of my day to day time goes to meeting with clients and doing programming for clients working, what’s called check ins, with clients kind of touching base on nutrition and that kind of thing. So that takes up a lot of time. That’s kind of the main gig and it’s the music side of it, it’s easy to sort of fall off, if you don’t kind of commit to, to working on something every day. So I do try to make that a part of things as well.
Barb McGrath 9:15
And if I recall from conversations earlier, music hasn’t always been a part of your life or not in the same way as it is now.
Gareth Bawden 9:22
It’s drastically evolved and changed over time, that’s for sure. Started out super young. My dad played guitar. And I always thought the way his fingers moved in the sounds he made was interesting. So I wanted to learn. And it turns out that it takes a long time to learn guitar, the learning curve is is huge. And
Barb McGrath 9:43
That’s why it didn’t work for me.
Gareth Bawden 9:45
Yeah, you got to put the time in, that’s for sure. So it you know, it probably took 20 years to really get serious about it. And then the natural evolution for me just seemed to be songwriting. And and then the That was a process in and of itself. My first song I wrote, I thought it was the best thing of all time. And looking back, it was a terrible piece of work. So hopefully I’ve come a long way there as well. Yeah.
Barb McGrath 10:16
Okay. Well, that’s awesome. And certainly you’re welcome to tell us where you’re training.
Gareth Bawden 10:22
Oh, I’m training. So I work in a place called OPEX. vagina. We’re about two years old. And it’s definitely unique model and take on, on fitness and training. I don’t know if you want me to go into that at all.
Barb McGrath 10:37
We won’t go too far. Yeah. We will be here for two hours. I know, we make for a good conversation. Okay. And Gareth yourself, you got a design tied and a very busy parenting life as well. So tell us a little bit about that.
Unknown Speaker 10:50
So I do online work, design, work, video editing, and voice over gigs. I also write songs that people make jingles for people’s, out in our projects, YouTube channels, things like that. And then I have my kid home in the day when I have three, two of them are at school, one of them is at home occasionally. So I look after her. And that drop at home helps me sort of to manage that. So if my kids are ever sick, I’m at home. And I can sort of juggle those two projects. I also work at Red Lobster in the evening. I take my music there too, because I let I play ukulele to the people at the tables. And sometimes the dress up is a lobster. So it’s a lot of fun. And then what else was my music?
Barb McGrath 11:35
That sounds like you’re very late already. That sounds like you’ve got quite a bit of something. So okay, while you think so just tell us a little bit about this ukulele at Red Lobster. And how did that come to be?
Unknown Speaker 11:48
Well, my daughter started showing interest. She’s 12 she started showing interest in the ukulele. She got one with her own money. And I picked it up as a guitarist and I was like, I wonder if I can play anything. And turns out the chord shapes are very similar. And so it’s like, oh, I wonder if I could take this to work and learn how to play Happy birthday. It’s like three really easy chords. I asked my manager if it was okay. And she said yes. So that’s when I started doing it brought brought it to Red Lobster. Start playing tables, Nolan, what is this? No one else at Red Lobster does it and then if the kids at the table and I fold my red lobster and I sing happy birthday with the ukulele it blows their little minds.
Barb McGrath 12:24
Excellent lighting, good idea. My kids would love it. I’ll be sharing with you both earlier than my son plays ukulele. And he his interest is waning. He’s actually starting to think about guitar. And so we’re trying to, you know, get him moving in that direction, too. But the ukulele wasn’t an awesome little instrument to learn on. And when he got it for Christmas, I can’t remember if it was a year ago or two years ago. The first thing that he said was Okay, so now when we travel, I can take an instrument we have to be the first thing you thought of it never did leave her Dinah
Unknown Speaker 12:56
Super portable, though.
Barb McGrath 12:57
Well, it is. Yeah. If you’re gonna take something you know, it’s a heck of a lot easier than guitars and golf clubs. Yeah, sure, exactly. Okay, so you both are trying to balance too. And you tell me about your commitment to music? How do you continue to make your music grow? You’ve got a single coming out in March, Luke, what’s on your plate coming up?
Gareth Bawden 13:15
Um, I’m working with a producer, we’re going to kick up, actually, on February 14, work on an EP? How do you keep it going, you really just have to make a commitment. And I think working on it every day is kind of the way to go. Or it really can fall off quickly. When you’re not doing it full time. And it’s a passion project at this point. I mean, it’s it’s by no means paying bills. So you know, maybe if you keep working on it, hopefully it pays for itself.
Unknown Speaker 13:44
Yes, yeah, I find that it adds value, don’t it certainly added value to my life in different ways. So from an early age, so I used to think that it was like you needed to be in a rock band and then you need to to have success, but it’s brought me friendships, you know. My wife, I probably wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for me singing and playing guitar because she met me online. And she was attracted to me. She says because there was a picture of me and my guitar. So Ah, you know, it helps him always move to places and I’ve met people through open mic nights and stuff. I’ve collaborated with friends. So you get a real sort of reward of life richness, I suppose by being a musician, especially a singer songwriter,
Barb McGrath 14:22
Meal is your is your whole family musical and your kids and your wife? Do they play as well or play something or sing something?
Unknown Speaker 14:29
My wife likes to sing, but I don’t think she’s really consider she doesn’t consider herself a musician, per se. Ella started playing the ukulele. But I don’t know. My dad gave him my first guitar and I just kind of went from there. He used to play violin when he was a kid. But I wouldn’t say it’s like music runs through our veins. It’s just something that happens. Yeah, I do have a younger sister is a really good singer.
Barb McGrath 14:51
So how old were you when you picked up the guitar? I was 14 or 14. Okay, so in your teens as well?
Unknown Speaker 14:57
Yeah. And then I got into my first band when I was 19 took me a while to build up the courage to actually start performing and go to open mics. But I recommend if if anyone moves to somewhere on their own grow into an open mic night and sharing some music is a great way to meet people. Because you’d be like, you got someone say, Hey, I really liked your song. They’re like, Oh, yeah, I liked your stuff to instant connection.
Barb McGrath 15:18
Very good. So do you either have you find that by marketing one side of your business that the other side of your business also grows? Or? Like, how do you market yourself?
Unknown Speaker 15:30
That’s a good question.
Barb McGrath 15:32
Oh, my God, I could ask a good question.
Gareth Bawden 15:35
No, they’ve all been good questions. I think his heart knows I struggled tremendously with marketing. So
Barb McGrath 15:43
But you’ve recently started a couple new Facebook pages, I know,
Gareth Bawden 15:46
Well, yeah, I have the fitness side, I’m trying to kind of grow that as apart from the music Originally, I thought I’ll just brown them together. And I’ll just be the loop brand. But there’s so different. That being said, I’ve really doubled my workload. And so I think that the people that are that are, you know, mostly follow me are sort of fans of me. And they’re by following both pages. So it’s, um, I think it’s, you know, the next step, and the trick is to is to break the next bubble with both things. And, again, I think it comes down to consistency and good content. So that’s definitely a step that that I’m working on.
Barb McGrath 16:25
So I think that’s something that I’ve heard you say quite a bit so far is make the commitment, that consistency, and just knowing the work that you do, that carries across everything, whether it’s your music, your fitness, your clients, consistency is key.
Gareth Bawden 16:38
I think that you maybe you’ve heard this before for me, but if there’s a secret, it’s it’s simply consistency across time. With I think with everything
Barb McGrath 16:47
With everything. Exactly. Yeah, I agree, Gareth, you how do you market yourself,
Unknown Speaker 16:53
I found that because,
Unknown Speaker 16:56
At least historically, not so much recently, I go to a open mic, like every week. And so you’re sort of marketing yourself to everyone, now you’re making new friends. And if something comes up in their lives, they remember you. So and I might go around to friends houses, I might take my guitar. Recently, a friend of mine messaged me and asked me if I wanted to play a Bob Marley tribute. festival was going on this Friday, I believe in the city. And I would have loved to have gone. But that’s just an example of how word gets out, like word of mouth. Also sharing stuff online. I’ve got a music, YouTube, I don’t post it as often as I did. But that’s a way to get yourself out there. Also, with the work I do online, there’s gigs that show that I write music and stuff. And there’s other ways to bring sort of your music into other projects. They might not just be singing and playing guitar, to to a live audience, but you’re creating music in different ways. Whether it be a jingle or using some vocals for something. I like to try and do things like that. A friend contacted me recently, she she hired me to write a song for a brother, it was just a, like a poking kind of fun song to make him feel awkward. And she paid me to do a video and and create a song for him, which I did. So little approach and I had played her wedding. Okay, before so it’s just about being around people and being who you are, yes. Allow it gets you work in those areas that you’re passionate about.
Barb McGrath 18:24
Mm hmm. Okay, that makes good sense to me. You know, and it’s interesting. You’re, there’s a design side, a fitness side of music side. So there’s some really kind of opposing sides yet, you know, you’ve been able to bring the keys pieces together, and be able to grow, you know, all aspects of your business. So that’s huge kudos to you. Absolutely.
Unknown Speaker 18:44
Me and Luke had to get together, it was really busy, because he told all of his gym friends to come. And they were all girls like, Oh, this is awesome. Bring next time.
Barb McGrath 18:57
And that’s what it’s all about, right? More people you get in front of and hear your voice. And so that’s actually what it’s about. So one of the questions that I like to ask almost all of my guests and it’s, it’s a really easy one might be another good one. But it’s an easy one. No, but like, what does that typical day look like? So the average person or lots of people, you know, get out of bed, get ready for work, go to work, come home, make supper, right? Like there’s a real routine. But knowing a little bit about both of you. That routine isn’t necessarily there. So, so how do you put the day together? What does it look like?
Gareth Bawden 19:31
For me, it’s, it’s really different day to day, I try to get up at the same time every day. For example, I I coach this morning on the floor coaching. It’s a short shift. It’s just over just over three hours. But I try to give a 510 every morning. Have something to eat. Coach on the floor program, right programs for people for multiple hours. Usually train for an hour and a half to two hours and then then I have meetings They’re and it’s not necessarily in that order. So after about eight to nine hours of that, it’s kind of home time and food prep time and get ready for the next day and, you know, hang out and play guitar and spend time with my wife and our dogs and try to manage all those other things. And then also, I read probably about 40 minutes a day as well. So Oh, well,
Barb McGrath 20:23
Is that sort of your meditation type time? Or is it?
Gareth Bawden 20:26
No, I have separate meditation time. Okay. Right before bed. So it’s sort of all of those elements, but they’re usually pieced together differently throughout the day, make for full happy days.
Barb McGrath 20:37
Okay, yeah, no kidding full?
Unknown Speaker 20:39
Absolutely. I want to say productive.
Barb McGrath 20:42
Gareth, how do you make that day come together, because with little kids and being sick, you don’t necessarily know what that day is gonna look like,
Unknown Speaker 20:48
I try to get up at seven Wednesdays, and then I get caught up, make breakfast, make lunches for the kids. If it’s cold, then I dropped my kids off at school, and then I dropped my wife off, and then I come back. If I don’t have the kids home that day, then it’s got a little bit more structure, I’ll do some design work in the morning, I usually do like 40 minutes and then take a break. And then I’ll take another 40 minutes, I’ll take a break, then I’ll do like an hour cleaning on I prep a meal for myself for the day. If I’m working at Red Lobster, then I make sure all of my clothes are clean for that night. And I might do some more more design work in the afternoon. I’ve got a few clients that I work with. So I sort of manage my projects. So I’ll priority based and then I’ll maybe go to work at five Red Lobster come home around 10. And then, you know, my day is done usually,
Barb McGrath 21:37
Wow. finding time to see your wife is a challenge in there.
Unknown Speaker 21:40
It’s true that she has Wednesday’s off because of their shifts. So we hang out then on the weekends, because I just work in the evenings, we spent quite a bit of time that as well.
Barb McGrath 21:49
Nice. Now, you were telling us a funny story. Before we got started today, number of years ago, you were playing and and I’ll say really got into the song and an incident occurred. So tell us about that.
Unknown Speaker 22:01
Well, sometimes, like I close my eyes, and I, I really sort of sink into the energy, the energy of the song. And as I got my head bopping and I ended up head butting the mic. And it was like why a mesh. And it’s, it’s like bleeding my head or head start bleeding, which I thought looked really punk. You know, I imagined that it would have looked really punk but it was kind of embarrassing at the time.
Unknown Speaker 22:23
Unknown Speaker 22:25
Finish the song about the similar incidences where my hair gel is starts in my eyes and it starts to stink. While I’m playing my song, and you cannot do anything like anything.
Unknown Speaker 22:37
Try and maybe put that energy into a song.
Unknown Speaker 22:41
All sorts of things can happen on stage where you just have to kind of try and plow through whether it’s a broken string, pad gel or bottom. Cut forehead.
Unknown Speaker 22:50
Barb McGrath 22:52
Okay, what’s the biggest challenge for you in your multiple businesses?
Unknown Speaker 23:01
Well, juggling at all, I guess and not being overwhelmed, too. I mean, I take the time to meditate sometimes sometimes as well. And that helps try and sort of be more rooted in the moment and be kinder to yourself.
Barb McGrath 23:15
Okay. What do you think?
Gareth Bawden 23:18
I think it’s interesting. I don’t I don’t find that juggling everything is challenging. Although it does seem like there is a lot to juggle. I just saw enjoy everything.
Unknown Speaker 23:30
So I don’t know how to answer that.
Barb McGrath 23:33
So, um, so the time itself isn’t challenging. What about growing your your music careers? Like if you had to pick one? Could you could either of you pick one? Could you leave one behind at this point? Assuming that you know, the bills were all paid? I would have to
Unknown Speaker 23:51
well, if for money purposes, I would have to give up my guitar playing I guess cuz. Okay. doesn’t bring bring in as much money consistently. Unfortunately, that would just be it.
Barb McGrath 24:01
But if money were no object, if all of your incomes could be the same, would you pick design? Would you pick guitar? What would you pick? That’s a
Unknown Speaker 24:11
Good question. But I feel like cuz cuz I started with guitar. Probably stick with guitar
Barb McGrath 24:16
Would Yeah, yeah. And I told him that that speaks to the passion. Right, that tells you where the passion is.
Unknown Speaker 24:22
Well, it’s like a therapy for me. And I’d miss it if I couldn’t do it. Yeah, no, I get it. And I would go therapy of editing videos as much as I love it.
Barb McGrath 24:31
No, I hear Yeah,
Gareth Bawden 24:32
I think for me, I would just have a different balance. I think I would, because I enjoy what I’m doing. The different facets of it are rewarding in different ways. And there’s a lot of different expression for creativity in both in both things and all things so I think it would just I would just strike a different balance with things.
Barb McGrath 24:50
Okay. Um, so very quickly, if I can get you both to share with our listeners, how they can find you contact you follow you on social media. And then Luke, you’re going to close the show out. So, once you’re done, I’m going to say a couple of closing words. And I’m going to turn it over to you, Luke. So how do we find you guys?
Unknown Speaker 25:11
If you type in Garth Borden into Facebook, you’ll find me on there. Also Gareth Borden, Gareth board and music on YouTube. I’m on that too. I’ve got quite a large family Facebook as well. Sorry, family, YouTube as well. You can find me on there as well.
Barb McGrath 25:27
Awesome. Yeah, thank you.
Gareth Bawden 25:29
Probably the easiest way for me is just to Facebook, my name. And then I have a couple of different pages, one oriented towards music and the other towards sort of fitness and health, and have a great Google Plus page for my fitness. So that is a fantastic way as well.
Barb McGrath 25:44
So that would be your Google My Business Page. Yeah. Plus is shutting down.
Unknown Speaker 25:48
Oh, yeah. Well, that’s why you’re here. Hey, help me out. Yeah.
Barb McGrath 25:53
Excellent. All right. Well, thank you, gentlemen. I so thank you for joining us here today to talk about your your musical journeys, your entrepreneurial journeys. I will be back on February 20. with Kim Zachary, the owner of stone’s throw coffee collective here in Regina, and she’s going to talk about the thriving coffee culture that we have in our community. And you know, the number of coffee shops that are springing up and and they both played I’m getting both from others. They both play there and that doesn’t surprise me as true as I as a coffee collective. They are very community oriented. If you’d like to be a guest on our show, you can email me at Barb at Above the Fold dot live, or reach out on Facebook and Instagram. At a similar address
Unknown Speaker 26:43
Above the Fold Canada.
Barb McGrath 26:45
Just a reminder, you can submit questions in advance of the live show on our Facebook page. I’m your host, Barbara, local business owner and Google girl Sherry will be with you next Wednesday at 12 o’clock. Remember, you worked hard for your success. Don’t keep it a secret.
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Luke is a musician, personal trainer and, little known secret, accomplished chess player.
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